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FAQ

Please note: the answers below generally apply to all phosphate bonded investments.

Starvest High Heat Casting Investments
(Phosphate Bonded)

Why is the investment setting up so fast or mixing thick?
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The best results are obtained when the average temperature of both the liquid (after dilution with water if necessary) and powder is about 72 degrees F (22 C). Since this is the starting point in the investing process it is necessary to take precautions at this juncture with regard to the temperatures of the liquid and powder to assure satisfactory results.

We highly recommend in getting a digital thermometer which can read in at least 1 decimal digit to assure the accuracy. Take the temperature of the powder after opening the pouch and subtract it from the number 144 for Fahrenheit or 44 for temperature in Celsius. The remaining number should be the temperature of the liquid.

Remember that at Emdin all batches are tested at 22 degrees C (72 F) and must have at least 5 to 7 minutes working time. Therefore if the material appears to be becoming thick too quickly leaving you to struggle with the investing procedure, there is no question the lab is too warm. If there is no means of determining the temperature properly, then simply refrigerate the liquid and cool the mixing bowl in refrigerator for 10 minutes before investing.

When the liquid is refrigerated we recommend that the material be mixed as long as possible without causing difficulty in investing (about 90 to 120 seconds). This will cause the mixed investment to set up uniformly and snappily.

Why am I having a rough sandpaper like surface?
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This is almost invariably due to not mixing material long enough. Simply increase the mixing time by another 15 to 30 seconds and the problem should go away.

Why are my castings tight?
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The fit of a casting depends on many factors. Overall alloy shrinkage is the most contributing factor. Other less obvious factors are temperature of liquid and powder, liquid to powder ratio, liquid dilution with distilled water, thickness of wax up, temperature of the wax, type of the wax (dipping wax vs. buildup wax) and the softness of the wax, as well as the wax pot and the age of the wax in the wax pot.

Generally speaking as the silver and copper content of the alloy increases, its shrinkage will decrease as well and therefore the recommended dilution for these gold crown type III alloys is 50% water and 50% clear liquid. Clearly other factors might influence the fit of the casting and consequently this dilution would need to be adjusted by changing proportions of liquid and water.

Conversely the more concentrated liquid you use, the more expansion would be realized to make the casting bigger. As the gold content of the alloys increases the more concentrated liquid needs to be used by reducing the dilution.

Palladium containing alloys require less concentrated liquid than high gold alloys with no Palladium. Those labs which have now switched to gold alloys because of high prices of Palladium alloys would immediately notice that their castings are tighter at liquid dilution they used for high Palladium alloys.

Finally, the non-precious alloys pose the most challenge. The quality of these alloys is all over the map and requires several approaches. One approach is the use of our Green high expansion liquid. However, if the green liquid at 100% concentration along with less mechanical spatulation as described in the instruction fails to yield satisfactory fit, then it would be necessary to use a softer wax.

Laboratories have reported that use of Yeti Preci Dip dipping wax allowed castings to fit better. Simultaneous tests with another wax proven the non-precious castings to not fit at all.  This same wax worked fine with high noble and type III gold alloys just fine.

What should I do when using Green High Expansion Liquid?
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Generally when using full strength clear liquid fails to produce a casting with good fit, it is time to use green liquid. The starting point should be the liquid powder ratio for that alloy with clear liquid. For example, if clear liquid dilution for a 60g pouch is 9.5 ml liquid and 5.0 ml distilled water, then the same ratio should be the starting point with green liquid when the use of 100% clear liquid failed to yield satisfactory results. Further increase in concentration of the liquid should be in 2 ml liquid increments.

What should I do when top of the mold (ring less) blows off in the fast burnout method?
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First the molds should be placed in the oven within 5 to 10 minutes after they are separated from the mold ring.

Generally, even though the molds can be placed in the ring in a preheated oven from 500 C (900 F) to 750 C (1400 F) keep in mind that as the liquid concentration increases the temperature of the preheated oven should be decreased to protect the mold from excessive thermal shock.

The safest way to prevent blowouts is to put the molds in the oven at 500 C (900 F) and it should almost always be safe.

How fast can I do the slow burnout?
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It depends. When starting burnout in a cold oven after a 30 minutes bench set, you can go straight to casting temperature at 15 to 20 degrees F per minute. The longer you let it sit on the bench the lower should be the heating rate. For overnight burnout cycles where the molds sit in the oven for several hours, it is best to follow the 2-stage heating cycle described in the instructions.

Also, the heating rate depends on the size of the mold. Molds larger than 200g should be heated at lower recommended burnout cycle. A fast burnout should be avoided.

What should I do when molds show cracks during bench set?
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Always use distilled water and monitor to make sure that temperatures of the liquid, water, and powder is about 72 degrees F (23C). When all three temperature are in low 60's F (16 C) then  mold becomes weak and cannot withstand the forces of setting expansion This results in micro cracks on the surface, sometimes leading to large cracks. Generally micro cracks will not cause any harm during burnout.

All batches are tested for this behavior up to mold sizes of 200g and rarely do we see even micro cracks.

For molds of 250g or more we recommend that metal rings be used to prevent cracks in the mold.

Why are there bubbles on the casting?
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There are two kinds of bubbles - round and irregular. The round bubbles are either air or gases coming from the mixed investment. To prevent air bubbles do the following: after hand-spatulation of the powder into liquid, place the cover on and apply vacuum for 10 second and then spatulate mechanically for another 45 to 90 seconds depending upon the temperatures of the liquid and powder. A longer mixing is desirable because it would also minimize the gas bubbles due to longer hold under vacuum and more rapid reaction between the binder ingredients.

The second kind of bubbles are irregular like pointed pyramids. This is frequently the result of a very rapid burnout during slow burnout method or doing a fast burnout in an oven preheated to a very high temperature. Another consequence of such irregular bubbles will be inclusions of investment particles in the casting.

Although the molds can be placed in an oven preheated to as high as 1500 degrees F, it is far more preferable to place the molds at 900 degrees F (500 C) oven and let the temperature rise as rapidly as possible to the desired temperatures.

What is the reason for finning on the casting?
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There are several reasons for finning, the commonest of all is a very rapid rise during slow burnout. It is rather interesting that no finning is observed during a fast burnout in a preheated oven but it frequently shows up during slow burnout when the heating rate is very high - say 20 degrees F per minute or higher.

As a rule follow the manufacturers recommendations for slow burnout.

The finning also shows up when the mold has been sitting on the bench or in the oven for later or overnight burnout. For overnight burnout it is highly desirable to let the temperature rise at a low rate of 5 degrees F per minute up to 500 to 600 degrees F and then let the temperature rise at 10 to 15 degrees F per minute up to 1000 degrees F and let it rise at still higher rate. This is 3 stage burnout.

If the oven does not allow a 2 or 3 stage burnout  then use the lowest heating rate suggested above.

If the finning occurs on the margins only, then it is either due to the wax preparation too close to the top or the finning occurred during the casting process. Increase the distance from the top of the mold to the top of the wax crown to about 3/8 inch rather than 1/4 inch.

If the finning occurs on the sprues but not on the crowns, then using softer wax sprues will help.

In any case a slower heating rate will help minimize all kinds of finning.

How many turns should I give on the broken arm casting machine?
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Generally speaking the number of turns will depend upon the density of the alloy and the physical condition of the spring in the casting machine. Some brands of Casting machines require one to two additional turns.

As for the density of the alloy, lighter the alloy more the turns. It is best to consult the manufacturer of the alloys and the casting machines because this matter is unrelated to the casting investments. However, giving too many turns can cause finning as well as blow through the mold thereby losing much of the alloy through the back of the mold.

Also, It is very important that the casting arm is completely balanced. This is true for both manual as well as induction casting machines.


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